clones wilting after transplant

When u first take a cut it needs 6 hours of dark. Someone always wimpers out and needs another day or 2 in the dome. hiboy May 4, 2017 #2 Vonkins said: This IS one of them, the Banana. Second day cut a hole in the top of the baggie. When you got them, were they bare root or in soil? I have had that happen with my clones and after about 5 hours under the dome they looked fine. thanks lefty, appreciate the help. Transplant shock in plants is almost unavoidable. While there is no sure-fire way to cure plant transplant shock, there are things you can do to minimize the transplant shock in plants. So thsts what I started and to this date. If it is a plant with a main stem, cut off half of each leaf. Some can keep clones going forever getting massive roots. 2012 GG7's Indoor/Outdoor Grows! You say they rooted the "rock walls"? International Marijuana news, reviews and forums where you can utilize our scientific and medical articles, helping you to grow your own Cannabis. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Transplant to the dirt and mist the dome/pitcher and put it over the clone for the first two days. They would yank them out of the groud at about 5-6 inches tall bundle them in bunches of 50 and ship them out by UPS. I like to give a bit of Voodoo Juice when transplanting to help make new roots. By day four your plants should be accustomed to the environment, so you should be able to completely remove the baggie. o.k., that covers the whys, but what to do about it? So when do you not consider a clonea clone? What medium are you using to clone with ? try NO SHOCK (plant supplement by Advance nutrients)when you transplant. Most plants will droop from shock when transplanted. The first is related to root activity and function. put a clear cup or otherclear container over the clone so it acts as a humidity dome..should perk up for you. I personally never use domes and I don't get wilting. but as we all know, it can be a one of a million things. i have just given them water the last couple of days but they aren't showing any signs of recovery. Also- any quick advice on space? The normal tray with no holes at the bottom having perlite spread out evenly and heavily saturated with water. You could put a humidity dome on the plant to perk her back up. The more roots that come with the plant, the less likely transplant shock in plants will set in. I think your problem is that the soil is pulling the moisture out of the rock wool cube faster than the roots can. Seven or more days for established roots. When you first make clones, its a shock to the small piece of the marijuana plant, and understandably so, as it was just freshly chopped away from safety and comfort, and this tends to cause significant dropping and to wilt that is easy to see by eye. What can that mean? Clones always do the looping at some point but the clones will bounce back.Get hold of a propagator and put the clones in for about the first week i keep the lid on and mist the clones and the inside of the lid with the vents closed.Sometimes the clones look like there a goner but that is why i like to do them in rockwool so i can see the You must log in or register to reply here. I found my clones do better with out humidity domes. should i keep them wet or let the soil completely dry between waterings? JavaScript is disabled. Lets face it, plants were not designed to be moved from place to place, and when we humans do this to them, it is bound to cause some problems. They are all short indicas btw, 2 fire og, 1 banana og, 1 kandy kush. I use CFLs tho. 06-07-2021, 05:59 AM. That's how i see it. It has a meter going from 1-9 (dry-wet). Sign up to get all the latest gardening tips! More leaves = more water and closer monitoring. Meet expert cultivators sharing grow journals, tutorials and pictures in our gallery, while helping others answer frequently asked questions. Newly rooted clones need cool temps and modest light for the first few days after transplant. The cuttings may be too large with too much leaf mass. I have 4 clones, different strains. Step 6: analyse your setup. by HypnoticJUD | Aug 3, 2021 | Grower Questions | 5 comments. Agreed. I totally agree with Steve. How many roots should be showing from the Rockwool cube ? Purpletrain. or should i leach them to get the toxins out of the soil? JavaScript is disabled. Read more articles about Environmental Problems. Ill update in a few days to let you know if it did the trick, Im going to try the clear cup trick for the next 24hrs or so and see if that helps too. OK, so i've been letting them dry out for the last couple days and they don't seem to be getting any worse at least. Then I put them out under lights in open air. You would Cut the leaves at the ends to Help , if they are wilted? I have a 100 percent rooting success rate. it just needed some water and light. Get some plastic wrap over the planter to hold in moisture. I know the dispensaries say that the customers prefer clones in the rock wool cubes, but I personally can't stand the stuff, unless I'm using it for insulation or sound absorption. I'm pissed because my buddy sent me some stuff for pHing but it's been in the mail forever. Atleast one set is. I used to buy field grown tomato transplant out of Georgia. This page was generated at 04:43 AM. Once hitting top of dome, transplant to happy frog in 1 gal for 3-4 weeks, then 5 gal and flower time. Place newly potted cuttings in a sunny location with some protection from the hottest rays of the day. The soil itself had a decent moistness to it to begin with, but maybe I just need to add more water? Good luck, Transplanting is pure bro science in my humble opinion. Thats all i can think of mate, dont mean to sound condecending. It's probably just in shock. "Disobedience is the true foundation of liberty. This goes for both seedlings and clones. Even the most helpful nutrients and chemicals can be abrasive, especially if they're poured directly onto an open wound that remains from the cutting, so avoid fertilizers and additives that are not intended for cloning at all costs. So I purchased mine and do not currently have a dome, any recommendations to bring them back to life before its too late? I use T5s and CFLs for mine, then outside to veg in summer, or HO T5s in winter. Do not water again until soil is dry. low humidity is why they are wilting. Or simply at the 1st site of new growth on clones placed directly into growing media (ie soil, coco, perilite, etc) is what I was speaking of. Take a minute to sign upso you can ask questions, discuss your grow, orbrag about your plants with other real-life cannabis growers! Wait patiently Sometimes a plant just needs a few days to recover from transplant shock. A wireless transplanter can drastically cut down labor in your propagation process. I would use either CFL or T5 for cloning, if you can't use a aero-type cloner then you should have a humidity dome over these or be foliar feeding them. 1 or 2 or is it best to wait for more before transplanting into soil ? Any advice welcomed! Seedlings Dying! JavaScript is disabled. I even prop the dome up with a piece of rockwool, increasing it to a solo cup for a day or two. It may not display this or other websites correctly. International Marijuana news, reviews and forums where you can utilize our scientific and medical articles, helping you to grow your own Cannabis. looks thoroghly dehydrated man, how many days since you last watered? Meet expert cultivators sharing grow journals, tutorials and pictures in our gallery, while helping others answer frequently asked questions. Clones dont exactly change color just from being cut away from the mother plant, but once theyre established, they do tend to brighten up a bit in color. Not sure how to mix the clonex with water, I just dip the cuttings in the gel. Step 4: analyse your growing medium. I don't know enough about clonex to say wether that would help or not, I think they just need a chance to get established in the soil, you just need to have the soil throughly moistened so it's not pulling the water out of the cube. Just put some carnations in the garden outside and yesterday they looked like they would die. All Content Copyright 1993-2023 420 Magazine All Rights Reserved. Also a good 48 hours of darkness after taking the clones helps jump start the rooting. Could my issues be related to low humidity or is there something else going on? Step 7: inspect your plants for pests. It doesn't come from seed. Jun 18, 2016. Make sure they're firmly seated in the medium. But using this method I can usually have them happy in the open air after two weeks and once they've proven they like it .. that's when I transplant. Please help me if there is anyway I can make life better for these two. Righteous. I will mostly be going cup in cup from now on after learning and using that method. Place the seed. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The thing is that if you transplant them just a tad too quickly, then you could risk causing irreversible damage or killing them outright, and it's a costly mistake that no one wants to experience. I just moved the wilting ones closer to the light, hoping that may help. PH on clones is higher then plants need to in the 6.8 ranger.also you need to gel your cutting as soon as you make them to stop Embolism or air thats stops the clone from getting any nutes.temp need to be 75 to 78.light need to be around the 150 to 200 watt floro range.you need a good cloning solution oliva or your choice and keep them wet 24/7 lights on 24/7.clones can be tricky but once you are on your game its not a problem.I don't cut my leaves and i don't mist my clones.But thats me i think outside the box.If they tell me thats how its done ill look for a better way.lucky its been working so far lol. However, in the majority of situations, you should do everything within your power to ensure that it rests long enough to recover from the traumatic process, so try your best to be patient and wait unless danger is imminent. International Marijuana news, reviews and forums where you can utilize our scientific and medical articles, helping you to grow your own Cannabis. Hey everyone- so I just started my first grow using clones. JavaScript is disabled. Thanks for the help guys , iv taken the rockwools out of the soil , to try and stop the moisture being absorbed. does this happen to anyone else? Today they are looking so good. If they are "too firmly" seated, you may have bent or broken the stem and stopped water uptake. It is just like hardening off transplants when we take them out of the greenhouse before we transplant them into the field. You think oxygen lol There are several potential causes for the disparity in water loss from foliage and water uptake from the transplant root ball. And then you would have soaked the new soil thoroughly Thanks- so maybe I underwatered? Put a plastic baggie over the plants for a few days after transplant. Back on in time and they perk right up. Top Your Plant and Clone the Growing Tip Too! ok does anyone not think of the obvious that you have to cut leaves in half in order get the plants to root or else they will just try to continue to vegthis just looks like a poor cloning jobcould b wrong, oops some are cutne ways the containers that the clones are in look kinda bigits always easier to clone in smaller in order to get big root ball. Bring your dying weed plant back to life. Join 420 Magazine and our collective mission of activists promoting Cannabis awareness since 1993. Transplanting young marijuana clones or seedlings is one of the first things novice gardeners need to master. Im having an issue Ive never experienced my clones are dying anywhere between 2-5 days after transplant into my 70/30 coco. I have not had a seed not germinate. The roots are absolutely imperative for your marijuana plant to . What are ya'll keep yer cuttings wet with? 1. Life finds a way my friend For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. should i wet the inside of the plastic wrap? mix it in water use to presoak soil (mix well, don't make dirt to wet or too dry) also place plant in the dark or dim light ( no grow lights) for 4 or 5 hours to rest. Newly rooted clones need cool temps and modest light for the first few days after transplant. Ive only grown from seed so am not sure, thinking of using scrog. It's not uncommon nor a big deal. A whole week??? #2. Thank you. Sent from my iPod touch using Forum Runner. Wet a 6 inch circle in your container first. cool that's an easy fix for those guys. Any tips/help is greatly appreciated. It may not display this or other websites correctly. As with cloning, transplanting clones can be a totally automated process. 1. Hope this answers the question Baja. Water thoroughly after transplanting An important transplant shock preventer is to make sure that your plant receives plenty of water after you move it. Also, is it good to let the plant sit in dry soil for a day before watering? Always make sure the rootball stays moist when transplanting For this transplant shock preventer, when moving the plant make sure that the rootball stays moist in-between locations. I myself would let them be until the plant recovers, then decide what to do with them. humidity may be a reason why the leaves are wilting, like GFcollective said misting your humidity dome and waiting a bit should help with the welting of leaves. Often time I was just out planting what looked to be sticks. ohspyro89 Feesh. We also put xtreme gardening AZOS were the roots would be. Now they are plants, no longer cuttings. Technically it will always be considered a clone, because that's just what it is. A genetic replica of its parent or clone. Bring as much of the roots as possible Along the same lines as the tip above for plant preparation, preventing shock means when digging up the plant, make sure as much of the root as possible is brought up with the plant. The leaves are still green snd soft though, No you didn't come off as a dick at all, I'm the dunce for not realising this was the same plant..lol. What's the problem? I totally agree with Steve. I just mist 3 or 4 times a day. I watered them, they both came back up, then this one stopped and starting wilting again. Photo Courtesy Heartland industries Automated Transplant I used to soak, sprout in napkins blah blah. I got to agree with the humidity. I do 48 hours of darkness and then 24 hour light with low wattage about 4 inches away. Iv got some clonex , would this help the roots do you think? Seven or more days for established roots. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Rooted cuttings are eager to stretch their new appendages and begin feeding. https://www.dudegrows.com/mystro-cloning/, I just read half of that. Voting begins on the 15th day of each month. It makes the plant stop focusing energy on photosynthesis and refocus on rooting. Water every 3 days. Either you enjoy my company or you are trying to troll me after I called you out for being a negative influence and lack of knowledge in another thread.. lol now i press new posts from looking at op's picture looks like he has shit load of perlite i thought of compaction Also but that is not the case .. That will do it least you learnt something next time start with 1 - 2 " seedling pot let it grow until you see roots coming out the bottom or sides .. Let soil dry out so root ball and soil stays together.. take out gently and transplant into a pot 2 times as deep and wide as leafs . About 15% of what I got so anything helps, Digest and learn from a wide range of common gardening inquiries and answers - if you have a grow related query, feel free to ask here. Theyd survive if the veg room was above 55%. Is there a formation of roots and if so are they wet?have they been under that light for a while? If you do see new growth, then know that this is an excellent time to transplant your brand-new marijuana plant. Mark the spot with a tooth pick or something. Step 5: analyse your environment. The solution is a boost to the plant's . Water the soil before transplanting so soil doesn't move around once the clone is in its new home. I have used Olivia's in water before and that seemed to work fine. First day use the entire baggie. What soil are you using ? In perennials, trim back about one-third of the plant. They are in a grow tent, and Im using a full spectrum LED that puts out 200w. You could put a dome over them when you transplant, but it's probably not worth the work. These clones were taken from the mother plants after two weeks of flowering. All times are GMT-5. You are using an out of date browser. The pots are 5 inches across at the top and filled with about 4 out 6 inches to the top with soil. Here's what I'd do. Luckily, there are a few things that you can watch and check for that will let you know if your little cannabis clones are ready for the big move, and we want to help you out, by laying them out in a simple checklist, that every grower, both new and experienced should always keep in mind. Thanks! I cant find guidelines on how much to mix anywhere. To transplant weed clones: Put soil in your pots first. That's when I remove the dome for 10 - 15 minutes, 2-3 times a day. Marijuana Plant Problems Wilting Clones and Slow Growth after Transplanting into Soil rydintoker May 24, 2009 R rydintoker Member May 24, 2009 #1 Im currently working on my third crop of clones takin from my snowcap plants. What is the Humidity of the grow room? Maybe this is the main culprit? Don't know what the issue is! The humidity in the dome is high idk what it is exactly but its high and yes my room humidity is way lower we keep our room warmer around 78f we used soil starter plugs as a medium we are using organic potting soil with worm castings also we dug up about a hundred worms put them in the soil bags after washing them off. You can trim off the half of the fan leaves to reduce area or take smaller cuttings. Well, the one looks like it's drooping from a lack of humidity. Loving the show! This is my 2nd attempt, starting my first grow In my 44 tent. 2 days after transplant the two smaller ones are starting to wilt, one of them very badly. I had 2 pop upside-down because I buried the seed wrong but that's it. It may not display this or other websites correctly. The humidity hopefully will help keep the clone from wilting. 50% is usually a little too low for most varieties out of a dome. Next time, an anti-transpirant spray will greatly reduce wilting-- they form a waxy barrier that keeps water inside the cutting. Some growers, and in particular, those who are new to the art, tend to rush the experience, but this can be very costly in the long run when your cannabis clones begin to fail, so it is important to make sure that you have all of the tools youll need on hand long before you consider transplanting clones. BWC's Largest Solo Grow todate (1st Journal completed), Please Welcome New 420 Sponsor MJ Wholesale, Mark Heinrich aka Smoking Moose Fallen 420 Warrior: Rest In Peace 1955 - 2017, 420 Photo Gallery Tutorial - How to Post Photos, Forum Guidelines - Please Read Before Posting, Slowhand's Oasis Cubes in Soil, Cloning Method, All Content Copyright 1993-2023 420 Magazine All Rights Reserved. We even took all newly transplanted clones and placed them in a clone dome with humidity levels around 80-90% and i came in today (the 3rd day) to find many doing the same exact thing. I had it sitting outside for a few hours in the sun today. they could be eaten to recover the plant. So, im at a loss. because this is a thread for my Banana Kush hahah. You could easily do this by a double clone tray. I just moved the wilting ones closer to the light, hoping that may help. Now that you know a little more about how to avoid transplant shock and how to hopefully cure plant transplant shock, you know with a little plant preparation, preventing shock should be an easier task. Water this in well. So the answer is that yes if the main stem is not dead and the leaf nodes are still alive then they can pull out of it. Please Help! I can get more pH'd water at the hydo store but they don't open til tomorrow morning so i guess a half cup will have to do for now. You seem to appear in most all of my friends posts or anywhere I post.. Hey guys, the Banana is doing EXCELLENT. My first time grow is having problem help please! The tips are starting to get black and curl. The leaves may recover or may not. International Marijuana news, reviews and forums where you can utilize our scientific and medical articles, helping you to grow your own Cannabis. 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