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The rest apart from Ireland (17, partly due to influence of aforementioned Patrick) set it younger. But Ill tell you what, slavery and human sacrifice, still awful. I am happy with Olusogo paying reparations to himself. And the fact youre moved to tears by discovering for the first time a great-great-great-grandmother of yours was a prostitute single-mum with seven kids or a great-x5-uncle you had never heard of was imprisoned for murder, well, your utter lack of knowledge simply reveals how little youve been influenced by them, so youre hardly discovering a new facet of yourself at all. How does importing new labour from West Africa solve the food shortage in the West Indies? Separated from home and family and landed in the West Indies (countless numbers dying of suffocation during the journey, given that the people traffickers were packing the holds to maximise profits), the Africans had no recourse to the law, much less the conscience of their captors. . That was when the Democrats were still Americans. Do I feel like I had anything to do it? The evidence of this is that seasoned slaves, those exposed to the environment, sold for up to 50% more than new ones. Anyway, I digress, we did have at some point, a gang of pedos turn up and put their case, reasonably, and were tolerated and conversed with. Video, 00:02:30. Purely speculatively, and as a matter of prediction rather than judging whats best, its hard to imagine large-scale reparations ever being adopted in Blighty because the ratio of losers to winners with the vote (presuming eg British Asians would be ineligible for compensation) is going to remain unfavourable and the cost of reparations across the relevant parts of the old Empire (if youre compensating British Jamaicans, presumably youre going to compensate all the Jamaicans in Jamaica once youve accepted the principle) would be considerable. White people are unique in ending slavery across the world*. They all get it from White people inciting violence. Olusogas stated purpose is to argue that black British history is not about migration and settlement, whether of black servants in the 18th century or black workers in the Windrush era. Video1894 shipwreck confirms tale of treacherous lifeboat, How 10% of Nigerian registered voters delivered victory, Sake brewers toast big rise in global sales, The Indian-American CEO who wants to be US president, Blackpink lead top stars back on the road in Asia, Exploring the rigging claims in Nigeria's elections, 'Wales is in England' gaffe sparks TikToker's trip. In the system that made Sloane wealthy, black women sought out herbs, plant species that he carefully identified and categorised, and used them to induce abortions, determined as many were not to bring into the world children who would be born items of property and destined to live short, brutalised lives. The Barbados slave code of 1661 stripped Africans of all human rights, and set out ways in which they were to be punished, to exert control over their labour (mutilation of the face, slitting of nostrils, castration, execution). I know there are posters on here who see stepping into their opponents perspective as a dangerous and pointless endeavour that gives undue worth to a viewpoint they despise, but purely as a mental exercise theres usually something to be said for examining your opponents strongest argument instead of their weakest. You can be redeemed, you worthless pasty people. And even if you personally disagree with it, what would be the strongest argument for some form of legal settlement? 5 quotes from David Olusoga: 'On a peninsula protruding into one of the great highways of the Atlantic slave trade, a few hundred refugees from British slavery in North America were attempting to recreate the social structures of Northern Europe in the Middle Ages.', 'Time and again events and phenomena that we think we know and understand contain within them lost or camouflaged connections to . Macmillan, 624pp, 25, David Dabydeen is a novelist, broadcaster, academic and co-editor of The Oxford Companion to Black British History (Oxford University Press), This article appears in the 16 Aug 2017 issue of the New Statesman, Trump goes nuclear, Quick and essential guide to domestic and global politics. It was such a brilliantly organised programme of mass protest that slavery was declared abolished in 1833: 46,000 slave owners were given 20m in compensation (17bn in todays money), the largest payout in British history and 40 per cent of all government spending that year. In dealing with the black contribution to the First World War, for example, he cites popular gratitude and admiration for black Britons among them Walter Tull, who fought on the Western Front. We do not know enough to be sure. All in all your typical West African is far more likely to have ancestral connections to the slave trade than your typical Brit. Supported by African authors of slave narratives such as Olaudah Equiano and Ottabah Cugoano, they held meetings all over the country, attracting huge crowds. Slavery within West African societies being different again I dont think the places with very high rates of local slavery were anything like the sugar plantations. This year, return to Neverland. Roman writers such as Pliny who chronicled or rather fabricated African life shaped perceptions of a continent populated by anthropophagi and other fantastic creatures, half-human, half-animal. Should black history be taught all year round? The New Statesmans weekly environment email on the politics, business and culture of the climate and nature crises - in your inbox every Thursday. Women, denied a meaningful role in politics, formed their own organisations, writing tracts, pamphlets and poems, gathering signatures for petitions and fundraising: At certain times and in certain places they were the engine room of the movement.. "This generation has the greatest knowledge-giving tool ever created and they have access to knowledge that I just did not have when I was younger. Instead the racket still goes on with endless boatloads of illegals swarming into Europe. Yet theyre so many centuries and generations removed from the crime, everybody involved with the decision-making is long-dead and while the responsible state still exists, in practice compensation comes from taxes paid by citizens who had no part in it all. Rather that certain western states, still in existence therefore potentially still liable, regulated and indeed encouraged the development of both the transatlantic slave trade and the slave-labour economic systems of the colonies, at scales that were unusual in the long and varied history of slavery, and levels of brutality that stood out too. A fifty quid note in the hand of the first black bloke you encounter. at scales that were unusual in the long and varied history of slavery, and levels of brutality that stood out too. There is plenty of slavery about we just do not call it that. The historian and producer said he wanted to. Theres a flaw in arguments of the form frankly you should be glad I murdered your sister, since had I not done so, its quite possible though we cannot be sure that someone else would have tortured her then murdered her, which is even worse, so whos the real criminal? Which is that I still murdered your sister. A weekly newsletter helping you fit together the pieces of the global economic slowdown. Like I said before, tolerance is in the gift of the powerful. If one disproves his assertions would slavery then be okay? I know there are posters on here who see stepping into their opponents perspective as a dangerous and pointless endeavour that gives undue worth to a viewpoint they despise, but purely as a mental exercise theres usually something to be said for examining your opponents strongest argument instead of their weakest. I assume these were usually killed before Europeans turned up and bought them. Blacks like Mr Olusoga despite endlessly banging on about it seem to overlook the fact that they are in a minority. One in which enslaved people suffered and even died from malnutrition, as the economics of the slave trade meant that it was cheaper, at times, to starve people and then replace them than it was to provide them with food. And yet Africans and West Indians were banned from the victory parade in 1919. Pretty much everybody in the West is against slavery. Cotton was a completely different slave economy. The thing we British are ancestrally responsible for is beginning and continuing to pursue the extinction of the sordid business of slavery. That was at the least unusual, particularly from a West European perspective bearing in mind the practice of slavery had pretty much fizzled out there. But it is also likely that disease played a role. Just as how in the 16th century the anti-slavery voices in Europe were overwhelmed, and in the 19th century the abolitionists won out. The Coldest Case in Laramie: yet another bleak true crime podcast, From Sophie Mackintosh to Stephen Moss: new books reviewed in short, Universal Credit falls short of covering the bare essentials. (and white people was pretty much the British). Those who grew rich on slavery and the slave trade were not neutral and no achievement or act of philanthropy justifies airbrushing their involvement from history.. Dr Peter Olusoga is a Senior Lecturer in Psychology. Less flippantly, Western countries are not of one mind when it comes to the age of consent sex with a 14 year-old is legal in some countries, criminal in others (yes yes, paedophilia versus ephebophilia etc, you got me).. It seems absurd to me that anyone should be concerned about what happened 200 or 500 years ago. Arguably wrong in a crimes against humanity way (similar language of natural justice and universal morality indeed being used by the abolitionists and the UK itself when it tried to enforce a ban on the trade) that made it inherently illegal even when governments tried to put it on a legal footing. The novel became the bestselling book of 19th-century Britain; it was adapted for the theatre and generated mass-produced merchandise playing cards, jigsaws, tableware. The historian tells Michael Segalov about getting up early, reading George Orwell, taking his dog George for a walk, playing his guitar So my advice would be, for his own health, STFU. Welsh slave-raids into England continued until early Norman times. In America few were castrated, which is why there are now >40 million descendants there. Theres probably more mileage in my country, or at least its historical incarnation, fought against it because unlike the actual people involved, the state is still around. History is just one awful thing after another. The masses who once supported black freedom now campaigned for the Deep South. They included Josiah Wedgwood (the pottery entrepreneur), Granville Sharp and Thomas Clarkson. Exactly, bis. That star stuff wont last. Black and British: A Forgotten History addresses one of the greatest silences in British historiography. ", TV historian rejects 'nonsense' over keeping statues, What Black History Month is - and why it matters. Like I need to hand my cash to the next lass of Rus descent I see, lest she remind me of some unlucky slave-girl that may or may not have perished at the hands of my maybe-ancestors? I havent the faintest idea whether slavery in the Roman controlled areas of Britain was more along the continental Roman model or retained Celtic characteristics. He is the author of the 2016 book Black and British: A Forgotten History, which was awarded both the Longman-History Today Trustees Award 2017 and the PEN Hessell-Tiltman Prize 2017. Will Britain change? Oblong, I am of Ulster Scot heritage, who were originally John Knoxs Cumberland Presbyterians, VERY MUCH against slavery. Or they may discover how little black lives do matter. The strongest case I can see against reparations is not fundamentally a legal one but perhaps one degree abstracted the law if we can litigate that, we can litigate a heck of a lot of stuff from centuries past, tie our legal systems up in knots with no obvious limits in sight. The arguments do you want to get shaken down for several trillion?. But werent they lucky compared to the other Germans in Stalingrad? Pretty sure if you could, implausibly, trace my family tree through various not-very-literate eras youd pass through at least one Anglo-Saxon who owned a bunch of Britons. By this logic, we ought to sue the African American community. But oddly enough, people like Olusoga havent given me the cash yet. The reason why Equiano is not a national name is because slavery is not a part of the history that we teach when it should be because I don't think you can understand the 18th century in particular but also the 19th century without reference to slavery.". My first reaction, years and years ago, was thats awful. But slaves were more valuable, so the British fought the Spanish for a share in the trade and eventually came to dominate it. Its extraordinary success rested upon the foundation of sympathy laid down during the previous 70 years of abolitionist activity in Britain. But that ignores how the demand of outsiders led inevitably to far more supply being provided. In the case of slavery the answer is clear. By David Dabydeen (Photo By Alamy) Nineteen eighty-four was a transformative year for David Olusoga. Well the universe has a law of gravity but it doesnt have a law of should there be reparations. Dont know if I would rule it out entirely because the demographics are different but it might need a change in the voting dynamics. Britain was happy to force the Bevan Boys down coal mines. The government has said the "flexibility within the history curriculum means that there is the opportunity for teachers to teach about BAME (Black, Asian and Minority Ethnic) history across a spectrum of themes and eras" so it did "not believe it was necessary to change the curriculum". "I first read it as a student and it struck me as something that was very different to other things I was reading about the Atlantic slave trade. Then dont discuss it. So there were times when food was expensive, we can call those shortages or famines. There is an alternative argument that it is their ancestors who were wronged hence deserve compensation and as descendants theyre entitled to an inherited share (so their portion depends on how many slaves at what position in the family tree) plus interest, regardless of how well theyre doing now. I assume he is not very bright and Race Hustling is very lucrative. A renowned economist has said that $12 trillion should be afforded to black Americans in reparation for slavery to help the close wealth gap.. During the Second World War, thousands of black American soldiers stationed in Britain were befriended by white Britons who opposed efforts by the white military to segregate them. There is no reason to think that slavery was nicer in Africa. A newsletter showcasing the finest writing from the ideas section, covering political ideas, philosophy, criticism and intellectual history - sent every Wednesday. 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They did not pay for them and were going to kill a lot of them anyway. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxc5ENT8ajg, https://www.history.co.uk/shows/the-real-vikings/articles/eyewitness-to-the-vikings, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vestmannaeyjar, https://www.historytoday.com/archive/normans-and-slavery-breaking-bonds, https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/domesday/world-of-domesday/order.htm, Apparently Essay Mills Must Be Made Illegal, Why Oxfam Can Go Boil Their Heads Over Vaccine Patents, The real point about climate change is how cheap the solution is, The excellent Tim Worstall- The Register, Tim Worstall is a darn good economist- Don Boudreaux, Tim Worstall, you pendant- Polly Toynbee, .more sensible than most right wing nutjob bloggersBob Piper. Tull played professional football for Northampton but instead of signing up for Glasgow Rangers, he enlisted. I have done nothing. One of the reasons why the American and Caribbean experiences were very different. And the transatlantic slave trade? Would probably have taken your suggestion as a challenge. My great, great, grandfather was one. Maybe heard of Saint Balthild, seventh-century English lass sold into slavery, exported to the Continent, served in a palace and ended up marrying the Frankish King?). You know, entirely ignoring lifetime effects? It may not. Full text must be online somewhere but theres an extract at https://www.history.co.uk/shows/the-real-vikings/articles/eyewitness-to-the-vikings. Writing in english is cultural appropriation so STFU. It isnt happening now. "I don't know why this generation has a different relationship with the past, goes to the past, expecting and looking for different things to earlier generations, but that's really is my observation about them," he says adding the internet has played a huge part. After all, adult males were all but worthless and demand for women might have been enough to drive the trade anyway. If we went down this route thered be goodness knows how much fun and games to be had with legal claims over the treatment of Irish by Cromwell, the clearing of the Highlands and so on, before you even get on to the globe-spanning imperial stuff. Various among the societies that were agglomerated into Nigeria were more or less involved in that slave trade from the supply end. In fact he is a biased political campaigner working to attack and do as much damage to Britain as he can. True that unlike certain other examples of slavery, you werent likely to be killed as part of a religious sacrifice or as part of your owners funeral. Olusoga, who is half-Nigerian, traces this focus to his mother telling him when he was a child that Nigerian soldiers served in World War II. His exposure to Nigerian culture seems quite limited. Now they do. The New Statesmans global affairs newsletter, every Monday and Friday. Would also apply even if down a different family line there had been beneficiaries of the slave trade. A House Through Time returned to BBC Two in May for its third season, and once again is fronted by historian extraordinaire David Olusoga. Sure. It costs money to replace them and after a famine the price of slaves would rise. His dad met his mom at the city's university in the 1960s. Its a replay of the ecology nutters & the trannies. Thats why we get it. Its a shame Societies have what morals suit them. A weekly round-up of some of the best articles featured in the most recent issue of the New Statesman, sent each Saturday. And were going to kill a lot of them anyway David Dabydeen ( Photo by Alamy ) Nineteen eighty-four a. Compared to the other Germans in Stalingrad British are ancestrally responsible for is beginning and continuing to pursue extinction! Women might have been enough to drive the trade and eventually came to dominate it due to of... 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